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I suppose you read about it, but in a nutshell the news article is about a Canadian muslim man who murdered by strangulation his 16 year old daughter. School friends say it was because she refused to wear a hijab (head scarf).
How far should religous freedom go? And do you think people who's religious customs deny women freedom, should attempt to live in a western country? Isn't it asking for trouble?
Is it okay to murder your daughter or wife for not wearing a hijab (head scarf)?
Of course, it's not OK. But I see a bigger problem with, in our case, Canada. It doesn't explain to the new immigrants in no uncertain terms that whatever traditions, customs or beliefs they have may not and must not contradict universal values of the Canadian society. And, more important, that there shall be ZERO tolerance to whatever religion- or culture-inspired deeds if they violate any of those rights.
People who think it's ok to murder somebody because of "family honor" or similar things, should sit in wherever their s.h.i.t.hole is and not come to the West.
Reply:I think that man should go to prison for the rest of his life.
Reply:Yes, as a woman living in the Greater Toronto Area, I can tell you that story was all over the news.
Terrible isn't it?;-(
Reply:It is not okay to murder anybody.
Reply:No, I don't think any man(or woman) has the right to decide who lives or dies based on what they wear. The exception is judges and juries for the sole reason that, that is how we keep order in our society. Murders, pedophiles, thieves etc are the exception. I think as a parent you have to be open to your child trying to find their own path
Reply:If you need to even ask such a repulsive question you are so far off the moral radar....
I suspect you're trying to use this tragedy to stir up hatred of Muslims or suggest this is other than an abberation - thats pretty sick
And BTW Western families also do terrible things to their daughters- abortion etc. Heard of child abuse ? sometimes they involve their kids in sex rings- perhaps we should treat this as normative western christian behaviour?
Reply:Of course it's not ok - it is murder.
Reply:not in my eyes
Reply:Murder is illegal.
Reply:no, what he did was not okay. but he took islam to the extreme.
personally, i blame her friends for what happened to her, because if you read more articles on Aqsa Parvez's death, then you will see quotes from her friends saying that ever since her father caught her w/ out the hijab, she had been coming to school w/ bruises. then one of her friends who talked to her a few hours before her death said that Aqsa was crying and that she didn't want to go home, because she was scared about what he might do to her.
her friends could have done something, they could have told authorities or school officials, before she was murdered but they didn't, they just stood by being "good" friends and now she is dead. but when people witness abuse or they know it is going on then they have an obligation to report it, and if they don't then i hold them partially accountable for whatever happens to the abused.
but Aqsa's death could have been prevented. and the hijab does not deny freedom, there are many free women who wear the hijab,but they do it by choice which is what is supposed to happen in islam. but when someone forces you to do something then all of your freedom is taken away. so the hijab didn't take away her freedom, her dad did. and her dad should have to pay for what he did not the hijab or the religion. he was abusive and he took the hijab to the extreme, which goes against the religion.
Reply:it isnt ok to murder anyone these are people ! imagine if you got murdered how would you feel :( ...
Reply:People do horrendous things under the disguise of faith. I am disgusted by this act, as well as many that are committed by varying faiths, (including my own - Christianity), every year.
Reply:No !! It is not.
Killing someone just because she refused to wear the head scarf makes no sense.
Women are free to wear anything they want in Western world, but forcing them like this and incidents like this pushes us in the Medieval era.
Reply:No
Not that far.
No
Yes
Reply:Nope. That's against the Quran.
Quran 017.031 Kill not your children for fear of want: We shall provide sustenance for them as well as for you. Verily the killing of them is a great sin.
Reply:EXCUSE ME !!!!
of course it is not okay I am a Muslim girl I can tell you that I am so sick and tired of people thinking that we don't have freedom did it ever cross your mind that I make my own choices or is it just so hard for a western women imagining that a young girl wants to wear hijab to please her god and to protect her self from strangers I live in Saudi Arabia and I would never not in a million year go and live in a western country!!
people like you always making assumptions without making the effort of asking the real people involved in the matter how they really feel
I mean just because your media portrays us as being oppressed does not mean it is true
No one ever asked me how I feel about hijab or anything else for that matter questions are mainly like yours "And do you think people who's religious customs deny women freedom, should attempt to live in a western country" no one ever bothers to ask us ,the women that are being denied from our freedom like you said, how we really feel!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:i must say i am soooo sick of people generalizing muslim as the violent religion.. How many christian people have cut off sons and daughters for doing things that are ungodly. I think that this man was a fundamentalist and was wrong but at the same time you can't generalize a whole religion because of one persons actions.. If people did that all Americans and Christians would be considered idiots becuase of Bush!
Reply:Actually, it was determined that the man did NOT kill his daughter for not wearing her hijab. There were many other problems in that family than religious ones.
It's hard to say. 'Freedom' means many different things to different people. To some, it would mean religious freedom: they should be allowed to attempt to convert any-one they could. To others, it would mean freedom from religion: for them to be left in peace, rather than having religious people trying to convert them.
I do not believe true freedom, when everyone feels included and free to do as they will, is achievable; there are simply too many differences.
Reply:You are absolutely right. People who think and feel different from another culture should think twice before moving to that culture.
Things should be the other way: if someone moves to a country/culture different than his/hers, he/she may think in integrate to the new culture/country: learn its language, its uses and follow its laws and practices. After all, it is unfair to convince a whole country/culture to change just to adapt and accept new uses and practices.
You can bring your culture and your language and it is refreshing and open minding to have new things and open our arms to new people. But when your culture and practices clash with those from the country that is accepting you, you are the one who is wrong.
Religion is sometimes too extremist. Even muslims have spoken about that case you mentioned. When religion beliefs become an extreme issue and go against life, they have to be pushed out. Children should have the choice to choose the level of their commitment with their religion/culture. They should also have the choice to say if they want to belong to that religion or to another or even to no religion at all.
Reply:Everybody has religious freedom. She can do whatever the hell she wants, even if it means not wearing a hijab.
So, no, I don't think so.
Reply:Wow way to go on almost 3 week old breaking news. Way to stay up on things. Anything else in the pressing needs department , your highness?
Reply:HI,
I don't know if you're Christian or not, but the Christian code since Christ is forgiveness. God will take vengeance on those who commit crimes against others, not people. So, no murder of any kind is acceptable. ie capital punishment, abortion, war killings, etc.
Reply:It is not OK.
However if someone does you should not generalize it. Crime of the person is indeed bad but your generalization of the crime to demonize whole community is worst.
Reply:No its not already to kill someone becasue of they are or not wearing a headscarf. This is why religion is dangerous.
Reply:It would be a tad hypocritical of me, not being a muslim, but no it isn't ok under any circumstance.
Reply:true... it is asking for lots of trouble but dont forget than not all muslims are that way! my parents never forced me to where it i made the dicision on my own
Reply:This is the problem with ALL religions.
Is it "ok" of course not!
But if god commands it, and according to many interpretations of muslim scripture he does, it is not only ok, but EXPECTED - and if you don't do it you are an apostate yourself.
Crazy - of course, but who am I to judge gods will and gods word.
According to christians, we should put our children to death for disobedience and women should not speak in public.
All religious people are selective in what the believe and how they interpret things. Being religions requires extreme mental flexibility and a creative dogma - or just blind faith.
Reply:Only if you are muslim,and live in a muslim country.
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